New Videos Show Zimmerman’s Gashed Head & Broken Face

by Dan Linehan on March 31, 2012

in Society

In higher quality videos released tonight, certain frames appear to display a large gash and contusions on the back of Zimmerman’s head, as well as his swollen and puffy broken nose and face when he was taken in to be interviewed at the Sanford Police Station on February 26th, after the shooting of Trayvon Martin.

There are five high quality videos posted on the Sanford’s Investigation site. The two clearest videos are included below, along with a couple screenshots of Zimmerman’s facial injuries.

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DanteHicks 1750 pts

 boehuxfam 

 

Posting the same thing, repeatedly, is sign #1 of a troll.

boehuxfam 7 pts

i really have begin to see that i hate i lot of ppl in america, and their sad morales, and fake belief system. you ppl are a sad sight and do not deserve to enjoy the gift of life. you just dont use your sould correctly, why do you wanna judge, police, govern ,take/still and mostly LIE. i hope god or an astroid what ever you believe in, i hope it takes under judgement infront of the world. your evil. 

DanteHicks 1750 pts

 boehuxfam 

 

Anyone else having a tough time determining who this rant is directed at?

boehuxfam 7 pts

 DanteHicks lol, if you feel like its u, it probly is, im a simple man, im honest an real. so i guess.... the shoe fits, idk u tho.

DanteHicks 1750 pts

 boehuxfam 

 

A little too "simple" to effectively articulate your point it would seem.

boehuxfam 7 pts

 DanteHicks i feel i did fine. thank you, i feel like your a zimmerman type of guy, why are you tryna insult me?

DanteHicks 1750 pts

 boehuxfam  Of course you felt you did fine, do you think most morons realize that about themselves?

boehuxfam 7 pts

 DanteHicks im a moron? your a faggot zimmerman type. i hate u, u hate me. so what. im not a 17 year old dummy tho. 

DanteHicks 1750 pts

 boehuxfam  Wow, that was so much easier than I thought it would be.

skeptykal_uv_everthang 1138 pts

 boehuxfam  

 

okay, so you aren't 17....how old a dummy are ya?

boehuxfam 7 pts

 skeptykal_uv_everthang fuck u faggot

boehuxfam 7 pts

 DanteHicks if you thought i was pulling a race card , lol i cant. i gotta tell it how it is. i love white ppl. ive had sex with white women, i had great friends that are white. ive hired tons of white ppl at my site.  can you say the same if your white?

pbunting 276 pts

LOOK CLOSELY.  The surveillance video is a video of a video.  Surveillance cameras are stationary.  They do no move or pan.  The ABC surveillance video moves.  At one point you can see the edge of a screen.  There is a leak at the Sanford Poilce Dept that apparantly took a video (on an iPhone pehaps) of a video screen running the surveillance tape.  This is why the original video was so grainy and showed no detail of Zimmerman's injuries.  If they had the original video source, it would likely look even clearer than ABC's "enhanced" version.  ABC has a connection inside the Sanford Police Dept.  Obviously that's why they're getting all these "exclusive" pieces of evidence.

boehuxfam 7 pts

 pbunting why is this photoshot possible your choice of avi?

sam7 5 pts

listen up....this is my take on the Exclusive ABC news video:

we saw abc's version and it looked low quality...i believe abc manipulated the video on purpose, so as not to show detail. all they had to do is re-encode it into a lower resolution and/or lower bit rate.

 

then the wagist here posted the clear videos of Z exiting the police vehicle and walking through the door. these videos looks to me as being a direct copy of the source. it is from the same cameras. i do not believe any video editing/filtering was done to these videos.

PEZmusic 109 pts

 

Zimmerman passed a voice stress lie detector test by SPD

http://tinyurl.com/d9z4kn3

Blinded by Ideology 5 pts

 PEZmusic Nothing in the link about a lie detector test, just a heroic portrait of GZ's lawyer???????

PEZmusic 109 pts

 Blinded by Ideology He says that Zimmerman passed a VS test Sanford PD. No lawyer would ever claim that if was true.

SayItLikeItIs 735 pts

 Blinded by Ideology  Heroic?  How so?

 

"Craig Sonner has never defended a client accused in a homicide, but he now represents George Zimmerman,..."  Does this guy seriously believe if charges are brought against George that he will be retained to represent him?  I'm thinking NOT.

trapellar 608 pts

 SayItLikeItIs  Blinded by Ideology  They have another lawyer on, Urig, who is a former cop who is a very seasoned and forceful criminal attorney.

zawy 59 pts

ABC news is now claiming they had to hire someone to enhance the video to see the gashes.   They even show "before" and "after" video where the  "before" is the "consolidated" video (which was blurred by compression) the Sanford police released and the "after" video is the original AVI they released, except they increased the color saturation.  Instead of starting the news with "we really screwed up by making everyone think he had no injuries by using the wrong video" they said "we were the first to bring you and now we're talented enough to enhance it for you".  So they hired these consultants mainly to give an excuse as to why they have to change their story.  I always knew the news industry has problems, but these are bald-face lies to protect their image.

patti is ticked 7907 pts

 zawy The ONLY thing that made them give that chickenshit excuse was the FACT that they were going to be sued if they didn't tell the truth: That there WERE injuries. But what truly cracks me up, is that so many STUPIDS think you have to be injured to be protecting your life. Z is nicer than me, I would have shot him as soon as he reached for me...

Raylmt 1069 pts

 patti is ticked  zawy Dont you just love the fact that TM supporters negate the fact that George thought Tray was a burglar.Now,I dont know about ya'll but if I were attacked on a dark rainy night by someone I thought was a burglar,I would have shot him too.I think George showed restraint for taking that beating as long as he did.TM supporters wouldnt do that though.They would ask Trayvons age,if he was armed and ask if he was only carrying skittles and iced tea while they were getting beat down before shooting him. America doesnt realize it but I would be willing bet if you look at black on white crime statistics in January-The end of Febuary(MLK birthday and black history month) you'll see that theres an attack on whites with an (open season) attitude during those two months. I havent researched it yet but in my case I was carjacked and shot on MLK's birthday at 11:30 am while I pulled over to text and make a few phone calls.It was a gang initiation thing.Since the 16 year old that shot me was arrested two weeks later (just days after committing a home invasion,stripping them naked and lining them up then exicuting 5 people in the house) my case will never be heard and nobody will ever know it was a hate crime.I am armed now and I wont be a victom again.If I was armed that day I might have found myself in Georges shoes because I know that 16 year olds mother thought her son was a perfect angel too.I'm just trying to make a point here.It doesnt matter how old Tray was.It doesnt matter if he had Skittles because when my car was recovered it was full of Jumbo Skrawburry Drank,lemonhead boxes and little ceasar napkins and it didnt make the person that consumed it all, innocent.

patti is ticked 7907 pts

 Raylmt  zawy Without question, if someone attacks me, they'll be shot BY ME..Like the old saying, "When SECONDS count, the police are just MINUTES away.."

zawy 59 pts

I have spent maybe 40 hours arguing with a friend via email over this and he has finally made me change my mind about 1 part:  Zimmerman was supposed to be arrested, if it was not for stand your ground.  I assumed banging head against cement was use of a deadly weapon, but it is only use of "dangerous weapon" if the JURY decides it is "dangerous weapon". This seems to be the rule in all states.   In that case, Zimmerman would be set free only after the Jury has decided the force used by Trayvon was sufficient for Zimmerman to shoot.  Zimmerman claiming Martin was going for his gun is not evidence for self-defense, but a JURY may take it into consideration.  THIS is the core of the issue of this whole topic, because we know the facts pretty darn well, and even as someone in support of Zimmerman, it appears this was supposed to go to trial.....if it were not for "Stand Your Ground".  So now I finally see why stand your ground is important, and why the D.A. was at least technically right that it is not supposed to go to trial in Florida

patti is ticked 7907 pts

 zawy Zimmerman was NOT supposed to be arrested for SYG or Self-Defense.

zawy 59 pts

Concerning the audio experts, they are clearly wrong for the following reasons: 1) for the 1 or 2 syllables available from the scream, 48% match using that 30-day old brand new $5,000 Easy Voice Biometrics is basically an excellent match.  Different people with clear and lengthy recordings can still get <54% and the program can claim a "possible match". (see 2nd youtube demo video)  So to get 48% with simple screams through a wall and telephone is like exclaiming a match.  If they can get a sample of Trayvon's voice and re-run the program, and if they could assign a standard deviation based on numerous random voice samples, then and only then could there be an objective claim as to the probability of it being one and not the other.  It should barely be enough to make a statistical distinction.  Of course, none of the media outlets are reminding reader that there was an excellent witness who saw exactly who was crying for help and knows the audio experts are wrong.  Imagine all the people convicted or set free based on these 28 and 35 year veteran expert witnesses, the primary one being accredited by his own organizations, having close ties to other experts who would not dare contradict their accreditor.  He has unwittingly given a huge boost to the legitimate voice recognition experts (Tim Owen knows almost no math or real science) who will be able to make this part of the forensic world more objective with their programs that can estimate voice box dimensions and accents objectively.

zawy 59 pts

They need to get Zimmerman re-enact the screaming under the exact same conditions (at the same place, and through the phone call) and then see what the program says :)    Sadly, the best thing would also be to have Trayvon available to try and pass the test too....   :(

Shepherd 60 pts

@zawy I think the should be additional analysis and yes under the same conditions. I also think the 'expert 'who claims it could not have been Zimmerman needs to consider he just made a false and very misleading statement.(Haven't we had enough of those with all the audio tampering from NBC, and media mistaken police station video?) Tim Owen should have disclosed that even documented samples of the same individual can read as inconclusive and be in even lower percentiles than he reported. IT does not mean it was not Zimmerman, it 'only' means he could not confirm this with his samples.

PEZmusic 109 pts

 zawy You are correct from the same distance to the same model phone.

Terry Mann 1168 pts

 zawy i also agree that this "expert" analysis is highly questionable. One guy just listened to the two recordings and said, "Nope, not Zimmerman". The other guy you mention, Tom Owen, used voice samples that utterly fail to meet a number of criteria for reliable analysis that were developed by the VERY ORGANIZATION that he chairs. Those guidelines are on-line so anyone can read them. So either his analysis is not credible or the widely accepted guidelines are not credible. Which is it?

RobertLee1 8 pts

Where`s the mud!

A  911 caller said she heard them talking outside of her house and she thought it was strange that people would be outside in the "pouring rain" talking. so, if there a fight with zimmerman and martin rolling on the ground where`s the mud or stains on the back  and elbows of zimmermans jacket. That jacket doesn`t have a speck of mud or dirt on it, it looks like it just came out of the washing machine. Where`s the mud or stains on the back of his pants?

SayItLikeItIs 735 pts

 RobertLee1 You shouldn't ask such practical questions!  That will open up a whole can of worms....

trapellar 608 pts

 SayItLikeItIs  RobertLee1 See police report.

DanteHicks 1750 pts

 SayItLikeItIs  RobertLee1 

Let's not let little things like well documented facts get in the way of your agenda.

Helen47 424 pts

 RobertLee1

Good grief. Keep up.

Zimmerman had grass stains on his clothes and the back of him was wet, he had a broken nose and lacerations to the back of his head when the cops arrived.

realtalk23 5 pts

@Helen47 @RobertLee1 Again, so it's okay to get out of your home and chase an unarmed person down and shoot them? If Zimmerman was injured that bad I don't think he would be at the police station Just 35 mins after... Its a 15 min drive from the scene and he would have been bandaged and given medical treatment. I call Bs on self defense .

DanteHicks 1750 pts

 realtalk23  Helen47  RobertLee1 

You don't read much, do you?

Shepherd 60 pts

@realtalk23 Yeah, you should be on rthe jury..in fact you could be the captain. You're so insightful to know everyone is lying and GZ just walked up and shot the punk.

PEZmusic 109 pts

 realtalk23  Helen47  RobertLee1  You have to have a reasonable belief your life is in danger, the attack more than meets that. Banging a on hard surface can be lethal on any given blow.

patti is ticked 7907 pts

 realtalk23  Helen47  RobertLee1 There's that "chasing" shit again....JESUS!!!!

Blinded by Ideology 5 pts

 Helen47 None of which is adequately supported by the video, even the retouched one's that are being peddled now.  It's obvious by the evidence the life-threatening fight never took place.

FredrickMassey 47 pts

 Blinded by Ideology Zimmerman just saved the American Taxpayers a lot of future prison money.  I think we should thank GZ.

Raylmt 1069 pts

Zimmerman took a vocal stress test and it shows he wasnt being deceptive about the events that took place>>http://www.standard.net/stories/2012/04/04/zimmermans-lawyer-sees-no-problem-exonerating-his-client  thanks to PEZ, I believe Zimmermans case even more.

trapellar 608 pts

 RobertLee1  See police report, which you can find on Miami Herald website and many other places. Officer at scene reports seeing blood from Zimmerman's nose and head as well as grass stains on his back.

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