Where Are Zimmerman’s Injuries?

Nobody has proven it was Tray...theres two eye witnesses that said the guy in red that was on ground was screaming for help.So yes...It has been proven it was George.Trays Mom and Dad first stated that wasnt their son screaming...then a week later changed their story and said it was him.I believe the EYE witnesses...who do you believe?

 critter Not only that...after 5 hours of questioning...police gave george a lie detector test and passed.Then they did a few walk through of events .Thats why they didnt arrest him in the first place.Not to mention he didnt have to do anything besides ask for a lawyer.An innocent man that defended himself WOULD do all that without an attoryney because he has nothing to hide.

 snapsbacula What he said!

@snapsbacula, Your excitement proves that the Zimmerman pr machine is working. It still does not change the facts that 1) The location of the incident makes it nearly impossible for Trayvon to have "attacked him while he was going to his car". The only way something could have happened where it happened is if he was followed 2) Zimmerman has a criminal background, Trayvon does not 3) Trayvon had a bag of skittles and a juice can 4) Trayvon was more in the right to be in self defense Sounds like you and the other racist believe that Trayvon should have "stayed in his place" and to even have possibly laid hands on Zimmerman, most likely in self defense, isn't remotely possible I cant wait for the potential forensic evidence proving the trajectory of the bullet

 BrianD3000 Quit calling us racists, you fing racist!

It's impossible for a 29 year old to chase and catch a 17 year old that has over a minute head start on him.The distance from where Tray took off running,to where he was living was a 30 sencond walk at best so why didnt he go home,lock the door and call 911 if he was scared of the Coon Killer?Zimmerman walked down the sidewalk.."after trayvon took off running"...after dispatch told him not to follow... to look at the numbers on the biulding to give a correct addy to the police.On Zimmermans way back to his car to meet police Trayvon jumped him.George thought Tray was a burglar...do you want me to believe that if you was in the same situation you would ask someones age,if they are armed,if they intend to kill you WHILE they are beating you before you make a choice to shoot in self defense? You dont make good logical sense Sir.I was carjacked and shot by a 16 year old...they found Jumbo Skrawburry Drank cans,Lemonhead boxes and little cesars napkins in my car but that doesnt mean the little thug that consumed it was innocent .The candy and iced tea has no importance whatsoever in the case because George thought he was being attacked by a burglar.

 Raylmt no address was givning

Critter....please go to "Evidence Tray doubled back"...gain some info before you speak again.He also said he afraid to give his own addy out because he didnt know where Tray was....so...he strolls down the sidewalk to get the numbers off of the buildings because it's where he last seen Tray...and he probly wanted to peep down the main road right there to see if Tray ran out of the back entrance...since GZ thought Tray didnt belong there in the first place..As he walks back to his truck Tray confronts George at the "T" where the courtyard sidewalk meets.Now run along...maybe you can keep up.I highly suggest you read the link above so you can grasp and comprehend my post a little better:-)"Evidence Tray Doubled back"...I highly suggest looking at the google map of the property while you listen to it.

If you want to bring up the WIND...I'll have you know that WIND blows at a constant and changes direction every other second in Florida because I live there 2 weeks out of the year.Go listen Georges 911 call again...you can tell that the man isnt running,chasing or jogging by his breathing.The only way they could ever come back in contact with one another is if Tray attacked George.You talk about Georges past...lets talk about Tray.Burglary tools found in his backpack along with 14 pieces of womens jewlery,weed baggy=10 day suspension.He swung on a bus driver.He hosted and reffed high school street fights and posted them on you tube.He sold weed according to his twitter account.Who knows..maybe he seen that nice firearm of Georges right before the attack or durring the attack and wanted to take it?Every thug needs a gun...you didnt know? Zimmerman didnt put his hands on Tray, was he following him at close range..no..so how did Tray get to be at point blank range when the gun fired? Tray had to attack him..Tray didnt have a scratch on him except the gunshot wound per autopsy report.George had a broken nose and cuts on the back of his head where Tray bounced it off of the sidewalk like a basketball. You dont make any sense Sir...sorry..go look at the links on the right hand side of the page and research.George also took a lie detector test and passed after a 5 hour questioning of detectives the night of the shooting without a lawyer present and thats why they didnt arrested him.On another note..why arent the black on white hate crimes reported? go to new nation dot org...maybe you'll be able to open your eyes as to why people profile young blacks.Have a nice Day.

@BrianD3000 There is a disturbing trend among blacks and the liberal Left to brand anyone who disagrees with an opinion expressed by a black as a racist. Aside from completely turning off the person slandered, the effect on otherwise objective and fair minded observers, in my experience, is negative. I have difficulty taking anyone seriously who employs this kind of tactic. Consequently, it is ineffective for any purpose other than ending reasoned discussion and beginning angry retorts. Sadly, it is common and practiced at the highest levels and by people who should know better.

 Paul Hue Exactly.

@Paul Hue Are you kidding, that video is nothing like what Zimmerman described. He described having his head banged against the pavement repeatedly, even the new photos don't show evidence of a guy who's head would be severely gashed(if going by Zimmermans description). Ask any paramedic...his injuries were okay enough to be cleaned up and didn't even require much medical care

 BrianD3000  Paul Brian you are a racist idiot. 

lol..here you go,moron...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T9rOn5IqBo&feature=related

 BrianD3000  Paul This video of the St Patty's day honkey being waylaid by the black thug proves that a man can be punched in the nose and have his head hit pavement each with sufficient force to justify drawing a gun and shooting to kill, without the victim of the assault exhibitting visual signs of a massive assault to both nose and back of head. 

 DavidTacotron And this is the kind of things that the police are terrified of happening to civilians and this is why the dispatcher asked him if her was following him because he kinda suspected it and immediately said "We don't need you to do that". And thats why, because people can get hurt and they are not professionally trained. From the audio tape it sounded like Zimmerman was irritated that his other prospects got away and he sounded bound and determined that this one was not going to get away and this is the end result of a self appointed psycho neighborhood watchman policeman wanabe with his 4 year Bachelor's degree just sitting there burning a hole on his wall. Why is he not in the field with his father being a Big Judge???? HMMMMMM?????

 louisarrighi It is now removed cause it was too violent...

 Andybinga  I would like to see those screenshots, Andy.

 Andybinga

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPSbtm6pwDE

have you seen this?

 erock71185 Please cite the relevant state statue that says it is illegal for him to pursue. If someone robs you or you home you wouldn't chase them? And you are wrong about the action of use of force. You cannot you physical force if someone asks you a question. That is battery. 

 TacMedic

 Trayvon didnt rob anyone. he was walking. stay on topic. as more and more facts come out, the more guilty he looks. stay tuned for april 10th for charges to be filed.

 erock71185 I am on topic.  I'm was not referring to Trayvon Martin as I was not there and don't know what really happen (Neither do you for that matter).

What I was referring to were the statements you made that Zimmerman had broken some law by pursuing Martin. There is NO SUCH LAW. I requested you cite the statute that says this. What the BSO spokesperson was speaking of are rules that deal with being on a Neighborhood Watch Program. This is not a state law. 

 erock71185 http://www.lawofficer.com/article/news/national-sheriff-s-association-0

 TacMedic Zimmerman didn't break the law UNTIL the law stated " DO NOT PURSUE HIM and he CONTINUED. So if I was stopped by the police and they stated can you please exit the car and I drove off, would I be wrong???? That is the question!!!!

the "law" was not a police officer, but a dispatcher (not the same). Second, the dispatcher did not say "do not pursue him", he said "we don't need you to do that". Third, when that statement was made, George said OKAY, and you can tell he stopped PURSUING, he did NOT continue, so you have placed yourself in the category of those who haven't done their homework and you have brought a straw man to a battle of wits.. The fact that he was already away from his vehicle at the time meant he needed to return to the vehicle. at no time were the COMMANDS of either "STOP" or "DON'T" issued by the third party dispatcher.

 daqari It is clear now that he did NOT follow him, and the law did not order him to stop, the call taker was NOT a police officer.

 skeptykal_uv_everthang While you are right that it was not an officer, it was also not a "dispatcher", as that was not the 911 line that he called. It was just someone at the station.

 JosephSlabaugh

 I believe Mr. Zimmerman called a non-emergency dispatch line, which in his case did connect him to a 911 operator.

He continued to walk to the front of the building to get a correct address the dispatch asked for...he didnt follow Tray after he took off running.After he got the numbers off of the building he started to walk back to his car.Thats when Tray attacked him.Go look at the map

 TacMedic  erock71185 The laws used to be that if you shot someone who was robbing/burglarizing/in your home for some unauthorized purpose, you damn well better make sure they were IN your home before you used deadly force.  These "stand your ground" laws have changed that, and are being used to "justify" deaths that before the change of laws would be straight up murder/manslaughter/some variation thereof. 

 TacMedic  erock71185 "Prosecutors and police have argued since the "stand your ground" law passed that it would give vigilantes free rein to strike and ask questions later."

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-27/news/os-ed-trayvon-martin-stand-your-ground-no-032712-20120326_1_castle-doctrine-law-enforcement-motel-room

"In Florida, the number of justifiable homicides reported has skyrocketed since Section 776.012 went into effect.  In the five years before the law’s approval, Florida averaged 12 justifiable homicides a year, according to the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. In the six years since, the average is 33. The “stand your grand law” has been invoked in many atypical cases, such as where a man sprayed a vehicle carrying a known gang member with 14 bullets and a 2011 case where a man was cleared after stabbing a man in the head with an ice pick during a road rage incident."

"Moreover, many of these cases involve situations where the victim is unarmed. The Orlando Sentinel reports that after Section 776.012 was passed, in the following five months, there were at least 13 shootings in Central Florida where self-defense was claimed. Out of six men killed and four more wounded in the cases, only one was armed. Some Orlando-area police agencies have simply stopped investigating shootings involving self-defense claims and referred them directly to state prosecutors to decide. And many cases where a shooter is claiming the “stand your ground” defense are not prosecuted, because many prosecutors are afraid of wasting resources in cases where the likelihood of conviction is so uncertain."

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/217969-schumer-presses-justice-dept-to-probe-stand-your-ground-laws

 erock71185 In any state in the United States any person is allowed to follow someone in a public area. That is fundamental. It becomes a problem when the person asks you too stop, or you are doing it in an obviously maniac and dangerous fashion, (Like running around waving a gun, which Zimmerman was not doing.)

 Veitox  erock71185 How exactly, do you know with such certainty that Zimmerman was not "waving a gun" if/when he approached Martin?  Or perhaps Zimmerman unharnessed his weapon while allegedly walking back to his vehicle and it was visible to Martin, who, according to his girlfriend's statements, believed Zimmerman to be following him?  

if that is the case and, as the GF said, TM initiated the first verbal contact after seeing GZ was armed, then the kids a fool. Think before speaking. only an idiot would see someone they didn't know with a gun and walk up to them.

 skeptykal_uv_everthang "Think before speaking. only an idiot would see someone they didn't know with a gun and walk up to them."   

LMAO!  Thank you!!  So, according to your statement Zimmerman was a straight up idiot.  First he insinuated that Martin had a gun, then he followed him anyway.  

 SayItLikeItIs 

I'm sorry, I should have worded that sentence better.

"only an idiot who had reason to suspect someone WHOM they were not acquainted with, and who had seemed to be following them earlier, and who was also now openly brandishing/waving a gun around in a threatening manner towards them,  would still choose to walk up and confront them anyway.

That better?

 SayItLikeItIs 

Let's see crazy man waving gun:

1) confront him.

2) walk faster.

3) run home and lock the door and call 911!!!!

here you go Mr Media and Al believer>>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T9rOn5IqBo&feature=related

Trayvon wasnt chased...Trayvon was followed at a safe distance by George.."walking" not running or jogging...WALKING...so if Trayvon RUNS..why do they come back in contact with eachother if Trayvon didnt duck him and try to ambush George.Tray wanted to beat someones ass for catching him case houses to break into on his little 10 day vacation from school.

 erock71185 This has nothing to do with anything in this case. If anything Zimmerman was breaking a rule, not a Florida law. 

I suggest you read this, 

The 2010 Florida Statutes(including Special Session A) Title XLVI CRIMES

Chapter 776  JUSTIFIABLE USE OF FORCE

View Entire Chapter776.012 Use of force in defense of person.—A person is justified in using force, except deadly force, against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or herself or another against the other’s imminent use of unlawful force. However, a person is justified in the use of deadly force and does not have a duty to retreat if:(1) He or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony; or(2) Under those circumstances permitted pursuant to s. 776.013.History.—s. 13, ch. 74-383; s. 1188, ch. 97-102; s. 2, ch. 2005-27.

It wil be up to the courts and jury to decide if this law applies IF Zimmerman is charged.